Dr. Jordan Floyd of Limitless Therapy and Wellness in Greenville and Spartanburg, SC

Episode transcript:

Angela Barrett – “Hey guys, thanks so much for being with me today. This is exciting.”

Anthony Buzzetti – What? Thank you very much for having us. I’m Anthony with Special Olympics.

Travis Luthren – And I’m. I’m who? I was early to win. And thank you so very much for the opportunity.

Angela Barrett – “Absolutely. Thank you for doing this. So now, Travis, in 2014, you won two gold medals, right? At Special Olympics USA, right?”

Travis Luthren – I’m a yes. That is correct.

Angela Barrett – And that was for what?

Travis Luthren – Down with the two of me?

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. Now, were there two different? I mean, explain like, I know there are different, types of swimming events, but what were your two gold medals for?”

Travis Luthren – “One in your best work and one where they freestyle? But, but the best work is a personal history with me. Well, because from the very beginning. The very beginning. Backstroke with a hard for me. So I have in for many period of time.”

Angela Barrett – “Well, I was going to say now the backstroke hard for anybody because I always think that I’m going to be my head when I get to the other end of the pool and you’re like, you don’t want to really keep going. But that is a hard one. Congratulations. How fantastic they are, baby man. Tell me about that experience there at the Olympics.”

Angela Barrett – How was that.

Travis Luthren – “It? Well. Prove it. It was phenomenal. It was a great period for me. Because I was with my peers. One of my training, I yeah, one of my coaches, he would. He was there as well. And what I experienced then and and my mom, they were there as well as a part of me and Phil.”

Travis Luthren – “Dad. And, they had the emotions, my mom was, well, but, well, her that. My mom is my biggest cheerleader. And then, as he knows my his past well from the very, very beginning to his 1990. Yeah. Then the backstroke was still hard for me back then. And, in the year 2014, my, mom was more than proud, dying up with their backs to it.”

Travis Luthren – “Oh, yes.”

Angela Barrett – “Absolutely. And again, congratulate nations. Now, when did you when did you start swimming?”

Travis Luthren – “Well, I started in 1997.”

Angela Barrett – And how old were you?

Travis Luthren – “Well, right now, they five.”

Anthony Buzzetti – How old were you when you started swimming?

Travis Luthren – “Oh, I, I was eight years old. You had to be, eight years old to be able to compete.”

Angela Barrett – “And so, how did you learn to swim? Who taught.”

Travis Luthren – “You? Well, this is a very touching set. Said. But what? One of my car broke up that, I am, yeah, that was you meet. Her name is Miss Simone. MSU was the one that taught me how to, how to swim.”

Angela Barrett – “Oh, wow. That’s great. So now when that was not your first Olympics, was it? Or was it.”

Travis Luthren – In 2014? That was my first.

Angela Barrett – “Oh, wow. That is a big accomplish to gold. Fantastic. Now, I understand you like to go polar plunging.”

Travis Luthren – “I mean, I, I am most definite. I said the, It is a great event. We have probably, how we, 10,000, people take, that and that goes out and get in. Do they code? Oh, they call water.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. Well, I don’t know, but, Well, yeah, you like that kind of stuff. I’m just going to tell you now. No, I don’t, but now, how many of those have you done? Because you don’t just do them here, you go other places and do them, too, right?”

Travis Luthren – “That is correct. But I’ve been, doing the polar plunge, probably doing the to, How were you in the 20 tens and 2000 time nine? Wow.”

Angela Barrett – So now what would you say was the coldest one you ever did?

Travis Luthren – “Well, the very, very first one was, at, a Harley’s Island. There’s a pub down and, at parties Island, and that was the very first, the. That was so cool. And cold to me. Yeah. I bet.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah, that that had to be cold. And you know what? My hat is off to you because. No, thank you. I can’t do the cold water. Now, when you came home from the Olympics in 2014, you started a program called, to a cop. What was that all about?”

Travis Luthren – “Well, that’s a good question. Typical cop. Well, Well, Special Olympics, we have a lot of na enforcement and the law enforcement and special, Olympics and the appendix we, combine especially with Nathan’s chip and, and and one of the nine enforcement, Me and the person with nine policemen, I says, this I decide to do a backup.”

Travis Luthren – “Where we go, there was a restaurant in the old stomping ground called, and, oh, hot dome fire. American Grill, right near in Pike in South Carolina.”

Angela Barrett – “And so we’re the, the typical the money that you raised in that program. Where did it go for it go.”

Travis Luthren – But as a a occurred to me to the law enforcement program.

Angela Barrett – Oh nice. Very nice. Now does that program still exist?

Travis Luthren – “Yes it does. Oh, I we always host to backup, event. We done Wednesday. We done Krispy Kreme. We done covered the cruiser at CCF. Pizza. But as you graduate in the past and now we have expanded, the law enforcement program, and we’re always doing some new and creative. Law enforcement events.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. Well that’s fantastic. That’s a, that’s a great program. And, good for you for, including them and some extra. Thank you. Now you’re actually now an employee. The South Carolina Special Olympics, correct?”

Travis Luthren – “Yes, that is correct.”

Angela Barrett – “And as a program associate, is that right?”

Travis Luthren – I am most evening. That is correct.

Angela Barrett – “Okay. Now, what does a program associate do? What do you do? What’s your job?”

Travis Luthren – “Well, that’s a good question. I, well, heard is that I do a number of of everything. Let me give you some examples. Okay. My main, And my main job is to do fundraising in the community. I also do, I write personal. Thank you to everyone that donate that owns a company. And I most definitely go around, to different types of events.”

Travis Luthren – “That requires for me to, to be a to speak on TV type, engagements. So I do that. And, and I must do every event when I get a phone call from my boss that says that we need you.”

Angela Barrett – So who’s your boss?

Travis Luthren – “Well, there’s, well there’s two, DC. I’m, the CEO of Special Olympics, Mr. Barry Coates. And the vice president, Miss Simone.”

Angela Barrett – “Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, they’re lucky to have you. Now is it?”

Travis Luthren – “Oh, and, here’s where and, and here’s what. So, in the stand, just to those two has a personal background with me. The CEO and the vice president has been known to me since I was, seven, eight years old in the year of 1998.”

Angela Barrett – “Oh, wow. Now, how did they know you that far back?”

Travis Luthren – “Well, because, the, Well, with Michelle, well, I was the one that taught me how to swim. And the CEO, Mr. Barry Coates. The old location where they used to be was downtown, and downtown Columbia. And during that time, my mom, she wanted me to be involved with Special Olympics. And then that’s where I first met Barry Codes.”

Travis Luthren – “And, the both of them has been, there for me from the very beginning.”

Angela Barrett – “Oh, how sweet. And that’s what a nice relationship, though. That’s great. Let me ask you this. You’re the director of, community outreach, right?”

Anthony Buzzetti – “That is correct. Yes, ma’am.”

Angela Barrett – And how long have you been doing that?

Anthony Buzzetti – “I’ve been here for six years. It’s been the most rewarding job I’ve ever had. I don’t know how it is that I ever had a job that I didn’t like, because it just seems impossible. I, I come to work every day looking forward to actually interacting with not only my coworkers, but in particular the athletes. There’s just such, joy here.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “I know that sounds kind of corny, but it’s true.”

Travis Luthren – “No, I, I yeah.”

Angela Barrett – “That’s fantastic. I know everybody in there and their brothers and sisters would wish for that. I mean, this that’s the perfect, perfect job. Now, what is what’s the biggest part of your job? What is it? It’s the glue, I guess, for you.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “Sure. Well, for me, my job is to try and secure volunteers because we need just a bunch of folks at all of our events. And then certainly, we like to have folks come out to help us when we have small groups of athletes getting together to either do a supporting training session, or coaches also need to be part of our our family.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “We’d like to think that our volunteers are our family, because without them, we could not continue to offer our programs and our competitions. So yes, that’s the the biggest part of my job here. But the most fun and most rewarding aspect is getting to interact with the athletes, which I get it, you with both. Ashley, coworker of ours and Travers on a weekly basis.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “And yeah, it’s just a very fun thing. So it’s a great fun.”

Angela Barrett – “Now, Travis, let me ask you this. You started a program called Walk This Way, right?”

Travis Luthren – “I, me a yes, Fred.”

Angela Barrett – And now tell me a little bit about this program. What what what is the program? What’s it do?

Travis Luthren – “Well, the, Okay. Well, the program is this, Journey? Yeah, definitely a journey. During the years my coworker and I, music Anthony got me involved. Now I go outside to take a walk to, and to be, for me to eat. Right. And we have, I mean, to be able to work out, but, but be honest with me.”

Travis Luthren – “I been through quite a few things in my life. Yes, I was, obese. Yes, I was overweight. I didn’t, care about my health. I didn’t understand the food that I eat every single day. And I was on so many different types. And medication. Now I, like, I take pills for my gout history. I, I had, a good, medication, but I had, some tab of, surgery and some.”

Travis Luthren – “I says, and, and that’s why I started this program, and it’s very dear to me. And I just want people to know and learn what if you go outside and walk, it can help you, right?”

Angela Barrett – “As I go through that, you’ve lost, like, 79 pounds. I understand right?”

Travis Luthren – “Net, 95 pounds.”

Angela Barrett – “Oh, wow. Okay. Excuse me. Well, congratulations on that as well. So would you say I guess your health, with the help of Anthony has probably been. Was probably what made you start this program?”

Travis Luthren – “Yes. Correct. His personal background. He used to own in Time Fitness. He’s a somewhat of a non guy, dad. And he. And he’s been doing that way before. He came in to me and came along to this company.”

Angela Barrett – Yeah. Quite the athlete with.

Anthony Buzzetti – “Travis is giving me far too much credit. It should be noted that while it was true I was there, I was only an assistant. It was Travis who did everything. His level of dedication was very clear. Not exactly from the start. If it’s some encouragement. At first, it was very difficult to get him out because he would have difficulty just walking up a flight of stairs.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “Sure did have some terrible reflux, as he mentioned, and he now no longer takes his medication because with the loss of weight and the more healthy choices, what he’s eating is, he’s sleeping better. He has far better cardiovascular health. And, yes, I’d like to think he’s going to live a much longer and happier life as a result.”

Travis Luthren – “And yes, that is correct. And I’ve, I’ve got to mention this to you, but, my doctor, I have, my mom’s company. His name is. His name is Nate Stocker. He and Nate said to me, that he, what was it he said? He said Darren and game, and he gave me a good look at me, and he turned to me and encouraged me to, take a device.”

Travis Luthren – “The, he helped me to take my, determined that I need to walk. He was the one that bring my, to give me the tools to pass it along to my coworker. And Nate Stark is very dear to me, and, And I can thank him, and I can thank him in the way that he had helped me.”

Travis Luthren – “I had, and now of a support system. And does the way people is my data. Nate Stocker my coworker, Miss Anthony Bessette and Nevaeh Nast, one my, yeah, my own mom, Miss Susan, mean, so when.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. Well, that is a that’s a fantastic support system, by the way. And, good for you for doing the work. And now I understand you’ve become quite the, what’s the word I’m looking for? You go around and talk to people about their health and encourage them to wall, which I guess is part of this walk with me program.”

Travis Luthren – That is correct.

Angela Barrett – “And so when you go around and you speak with these people, do you tell them not only is it important to do the walking and eating correctly, but to have the support system as well, because I think that’s a big part of it, don’t you?”

Travis Luthren – “Most definitely. What you don’t have as a post system from the very beginning. And and during the night time, you always need to put the, system where it is evident then how you do the work.”

Angela Barrett – “Right? Right. And so now tell me about this going around, and talking to, I guess different schools or different organizations. How do they, how do you do? They reach out to you and say, hey, come walk with Travis today with us, or how’s it work?”

Travis Luthren – “Well, that’s a good question. They call, my coworker, and my coworker makes the appointment, and we our. And he comes and picks me up from our house and we go to them to do some, business, and, and he also takes me to the, the schools in the District of South Carolina.”

Angela Barrett – “Oh, nice. And so, Anthony, sorry, this is if somebody like, let’s say a an office, you know, come January, everybody’s going to be, you know, on this health kick. So, they want, you know, somebody to come in and encourage, you know, I don’t know, once a month, once every other week, once, you know, they just reach out to you and, and try to work that out.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “Yes, ma’am. I think it could be said that I am Travis’s booking agent, and one of my job is to certainly make sure that we know and that we let folks know who are interested, and we’re happy to come out and be with them. And we’ll certainly work around their schedule. Like, yes, we have a relationship with any number of schools.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “You know, Luke of Elgin High School comes to mind. River Bluff High School here, right at, couple of middle schools and elementary schools. Dominion Energy is a partnership.”

Angela Barrett – Yeah. Did see that.

Anthony Buzzetti – “We are more than happy to join. And what we’re trying to do is really just inspire folks, allow them to see that, you know, getting in shape or taking control of your health, while it may be somewhat tedious, can also be fun, especially when done in a group setting. And so it’s just a fun event. We try and emphasize the fact that it’s not as hard as it it seems, but yet we’re all there to support one another.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “And so I’d like to think it works pretty well. And we’ve got engagements. We’ve got a big walk coming up. It’s November the 25th, Saluda shins, LaBelle Trot and I’m really looking forward to that.”

Travis Luthren – “So yes. I mean, we, Sammy Davis correct. But I think, we’ll be okay. I can share my personal, with the program that I diet. All right, if I may.”

Angela Barrett – “Absolutely. Because I was going to ask you when you started and, you know, like, how long this is taking you to, to do all that. So to definitely tell me that.”

Travis Luthren – “Well, to be honest, with you,”

Travis Luthren – “Diabetes, mind and the family and the of the have, there’s a lot of. At the heart, and, and when it comes to alcohol, it’s very, very, Course, our history and mind. What? Because,”

Travis Luthren – I had last a parent.

Angela Barrett – “Oh, I’m so sorry.”

Travis Luthren – “Oh, well. Thank you. But, that’s what I I’m good. 12. What I need to take care of. I do want, my history to go to dinner. I did go to the next year waiting in my damn need to have those to family because I grew up with them, but, Yeah, then my senior, Grayson.”

Angela Barrett – Right. And so when did you start? How long has this taken? So when did you start your journey to get healthier and lose weight?

Travis Luthren – “But, Yeah. Boy, that’s a good question. Probably 2022, 2020 the way.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “It was actually January 11th, 2022. So we took our very first formal walk on that day.”

Travis Luthren – And nice.

Anthony Buzzetti – That was a cool.

Angela Barrett – The 22 said just a little over two years.

Anthony Buzzetti – “Yes, ma’am. Ma’am.”

Angela Barrett – “So, perfect way to do it. There is from what all I’ve read and heard and been told, you know, nice and steady and slow, is a good way. And so.”

Angela Barrett – “Tell me in this groove, I think so tell me what the Rainbow Gang is. There’s a.”

Travis Luthren – “I’m, I’m okay. Well, the rainbow game is a, is a group where individuals like me, they, they provide, things in the community, and, and and this in, in South Carolina and they provide, my coworker could tell you what, what they did, but then. Okay. In in addition to happen there and, came peace.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “Sure. It’s a group of individuals, adults with intellectual disabilities from Anderson. They are. I guess they’re headed up, if you will, by Kathy Schofield and Tessa Healy. And together this group meets on a daily basis. They attend events, they perform their own events, they have a spring Special Olympics games. It’s a very active group and they’re great spokespersons for Special Olympics.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “So we’re happy to have them as part of the Special Olympics. Family. I believe there are approximately 17 athletes and they participate in tennis and pickleball, bowling and bocce, and they’re just a fun gang, as the name would imply, the Rainbow Gang. So oftentimes you’ll see them arriving in their Rainbow Gang bus, and they just make things more exciting and fun when they’re around.”

Angela Barrett – “Well, Travis, I think I saw and how I got that was, somewhere on Facebook. I think that we’re doing a walk with you. Walk with Travis. And I know they did some funny videos with you, and I saw a couple of moccasin costumes. And again, that was how I knew about the Rainbow Gang, but that was kind of funny.”

Angela Barrett – That was great.

Travis Luthren – “Well, And, Yeah. What? Thank you. And, but, my I. Yeah. What I learned from my coworker. You need to make it fun. You need to make it interesting. Well, because if you don’t, how would it go out in the, in the community?”

Angela Barrett – “That’s right. I agree. Now, let me ask you this for your event that’s coming up, Saluda Shoals, November the 25th. I know that they can sign up. I guess, through you guys. Or is it through Saluda Shoals?”

Anthony Buzzetti – “We would prefer that they sign up through us because we’re trying to create our own Special Olympics group license, not our event. We must mention that this is a strictly running event done by the folks at Saluda Shoals that the Irmo Recreation Commission. But they’ve allowed us to be a partner. And so we’re very excited about that. We’ll have a big presence there.”

Anthony Buzzetti – “At the race last year, we have 77 of Trev’s closest friends, and this year we hope to have as many as 140 or so.”

Travis Luthren – “Yes. That’s correct. And, what he said, my dear friends from the period a times, they, come and walk with me and his, and, and plus, he what touched me, the funding last time that we worked at that event, one of my, Yeah, one my during my school years, my, my at,”

Anthony Buzzetti – “My at,”

Travis Luthren – “I, I at level one and my school, my teacher came out. Oh, nice. And that was so, as borrowing from me and. And so that’s why that, that all the people that, that came out, they share me on and that’s what it’s all about, is to have people, to come and walk to, and to enjoy the Christmas night and people that has been poor me through, through the beginning, through, every age that I was by then.”

Travis Luthren – “And, and they are and walk with me.”

Angela Barrett – “That is great. So that’s what I was going to ask you. So if you sign up through, you guys, for the wall to wall with Travis, do you physically do I physically get to go? And what will drive us? I mean, is that what we do need?”

Travis Luthren – “Yes, dear.”

Anthony Buzzetti – Is if you can keep up with it.

Angela Barrett – “Well, now, that might be a problem.”

Travis Luthren –

Anthony Buzzetti – “His promise to better his personal best time from last year. So just be aware, he may be motoring his way along. So keeping up with him may not be.”

Angela Barrett – “So it’s A5K, right. And so you’re going to.”

Anthony Buzzetti – Walk only 4.2 miles.

Angela Barrett – Oh okay.

Anthony Buzzetti – “So it’s a little bit longer than a five right. But it doesn’t seem quite so long because of course you’re walking among the Christmas lights here with friends. And oh if it’s not raining, it could be a very funny name.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Try some steps. Do you try to get to a day? What’s your goal?”

Travis Luthren – “Well, my main goal is 10,000 steps per day. Nice.”

Angela Barrett – And do you make that every day?

Travis Luthren – That is correct.

Angela Barrett – “Nice, nice. Yeah, I tried that one time. I switched to a regular watch. Now, there’ve been no, no special, bells and whistles. Now, Charles, are you planning to go, participate in the Olympics again?”

Travis Luthren – “And, that is correct. If I get picked to go to the, training to the next games. But you have to get picked. Sure. I’m ready to go.”

Angela Barrett – “Sure, absolutely. Well, I’ll look forward to, watching for that upcoming news when it’s time to do that. Guys, I thank you. So very much for being with me today. This has been very special. I have wanted to talk with somebody for a while now from the Special Olympics, and I’m so glad it was you guys.”

Angela Barrett – Thank you so much.

Travis Luthren – Amna I’m right. Yeah. Well thank you very much. They were doing this. And it does have a great. Always chasing that very dear to my heart forever and ever.

Angela Barrett – Well thank you. And I got one last question from us why they call you Mad Dog.

Travis Luthren – “Use has hit a soft spot. Is the, well played? Is that, If they defend, that takes me to, But, team bag weekend, I’m a big high that, I’m a big, high Davidson fan. And I got that, that nickname Mad Dog. My bite is worse than my bank. So when I get mad in my self, I tend to, my way.”

Travis Luthren – “Head temper. Well, be my background. History. Most read has have a lot of temperament. And that’s what goes down in my family history.”

Angela Barrett – “That is funny. Well, that’s a funny story. And thanks so much.”

Episode transcript:

Angela Barrett – “Hey guys, today I have with me Doctor Luke and Doctor Mike from McIntyre. Family Chiropractic one of make sure I got that right in out of Summerville. So we’re down that we’re down south. Yeah. Sumerville’s kind of become in the new Charleston, right?”

DR. Mike McIntyre – Pretty much.

Angela Barrett – “Yeah, yeah, Charleston. It’s growing. It’s kind of what I say about.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – Bill all.

Angela Barrett – “Over. Yeah. So, how long have, you guys been in business? I guess, the market started with you. I guess.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yeah, I opened in 2019.”

Angela Barrett – “2019, and.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And then. Yeah, we’re. I guess we’re almost, what, the five years now in business, I guess just about. Oh, yeah.”

Angela Barrett – “And, how long have you been with them?”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “Yeah. So I was, I moved, different area. So I’m originally from New York, Long Island, New York.”

Angela Barrett – Long Island.

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “Yeah. I went to the doctor. I went to school with doctor Mike. So we’re very close. We had the same philosophy and how to manage and care for patients. Same mentor. A doctor would shout out to doctor, would you stayed us and everything that we we know about the work that we do. And so just taking care of people.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “So so I was in, upstate and then California. So I just moved from California to work with doctor Mike. So a few weeks.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “I’ve been here a few weeks. Yes, yes.”

Angela Barrett – So what part of California?

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “The Bay area, Pleasanton, Concord area.”

Angela Barrett – “Cool. So my son worked out, in California for a while, and now that I don’t enjoy him being back in South Carolina. But I sure do miss the excuse to get out to Sausalito. Wow. Okay. It’s like, dang. So anyway, so tell me you talked about the same philosophy in the care of your patient. What? What is that philosophy?”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Well, I mean, I remember one thing is service. Like, we’re always focused on the patient, what they need. You know, we do truly believe that we work with the body’s ability to heal itself, so we don’t, you know, what we do is, making the body function as well as it can, not looking at ways to, like, mask symptoms or anything like that.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “So it’s definitely a different approach to health care. And we definitely share that that servant mindset philosophy as well. So it’s always focused on, you know, what the patient needs and what we can best do to serve that.”

Angela Barrett – So it was let’s just get the elephant out of the room. Let’s talk about the biggest misconception of chiropractic care. Let’s just go ahead and hit that in the bud. What do you think it is?

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “There’s a lot there. Is so I think the biggest thing is people associate lack of symptoms with functioning optimally. One of, a quote that I heard, they said that, who is it? Was the well-known, philosophy. You know, a lot of these. But one of the you guys, it talks about the, if we use the analogy or the, the quote that those without symptoms are the healthiest, the ones that without symptoms are, are in the grave, right?”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “Because they have no symptoms. So people associate I think that’s the biggest misconception is that, oh, I don’t have, you know, whether that’s someone that’s two years old or or 99 years old, like, I don’t have any symptoms. That means I’m healthy or functioning well. And as I mentioned before, only one third of our nerves have been receptors.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – And so lacking a lack of pain doesn’t mean function. So that’s why we the work we do is not just where the pain is. And then we adjust that particular area. There is a diagnostic. There’s an analysis. Or we call a system approach to finding the root cause to the problem. And so we’re very detailed and organized in regards to find a good cause to the problem.

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. Like, I mean, there are some people who, have said, oh, will it hurt? You know, and I’m like, well, we went to the wrong person then, because it’s not supposed to hurt. I have my chiropractor, David Chandler shout out to him and seriously, if I could afford to go every day and I know that’s not good for you, but that’s.”

Angela Barrett – “But, I just like to be adjusted, and so I’ll just go in there and he said anything wrong today, and I’ll be like, no, just hear me. Well, just. That’s right. And that is a lot of it. I know and many years ago gone for migraines, certainly was in an accident many, many years ago. Not a bad one, but just enough to tweak things.”

Angela Barrett – “Did that. I’m not a big medicine taker, so I seek all other avenues because I can’t. The medicine just doesn’t do well with me. Like some people can take a a tiny RPM. Well, that would make me in a coma for like two days. Not kidding. So I can’t take it. So I, I’ve always sought out other avenues.”

Angela Barrett – “And so I think what you all do, is a great thing, but I know that there are a lot of people who don’t, so clear up some of the things. I mean, I’ve known one, you know, you’ve been in a car accident and, you know, you tweaked your neck, your back, and migraines for sure. It can help name some of the other things that people don’t normally think of.”

Angela Barrett – They just reach for medicine that you can help again to the root cause.

DR. Mike McIntyre – “I think I’ll just say like medicine. But one of the things that I’m focused on now is like pregnancy and pediatric care and, and I, we have another baby on the way in a few weeks.”

Angela Barrett – “Number five. Six. Oh my God. Five. Oh, mercy.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “But but but, the and I hate to say medical world, but the medical world views something that’s simple and natural. Is pregnancy as like as an issue. Right. It’s not. So educating people about the fact that, you know, you can this is a natural thing that we’ve been doing for, you know, tens of thousands of years. It’s not a medical intervention that’s always needed.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Now, obviously there are cases when there are. But like seeing people having like such high rates of like C-section when it might not necessarily have to happen or, you know, taking care of babies. The biggest thing that I focus on is like checking a baby after they’re born. Like, if you if your baby’s born in a hospital, they checked everything, but they don’t have a spine check with what we do, you know, the most important system in their body because their spine holds their nervous system, which controls everything.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “So I always, at that baby’s first adjustment is the most important one, because we might be, prevent any problem before it even becomes a problem.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. And speaking of children, when my son was young, he got, headaches a lot. He was a baseball player. And the headaches were actually coming from things just being out of line. And so we went a couple times a week, you know, you got 2 to 3 times a week, two times a week. And then we got to that monthly as long as he played baseball and we went to get the regular spine adjustments, headaches were not there is you know it’s just people just don’t think about that kind of stuff.”

Angela Barrett – Yeah. Yeah.

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “Our bodies that a body is designed to heal and we need to remove the interference from the brain to body and, another passion of mine is something I really like to study is, blood sugar and adrenal function. And a lot of people don’t associate that with, managing their blood sugar and or digestive. And but I see it.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “I mean, when I was in California, I saw pretty much people weekly just for digestive, like, acid reflux. I can’t tell you how many patients are on acid reflux medicine for 15, 20 years. When we get back to the root. Root, how the medicine was developed, it should be only several weeks that really they should be on it.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “But just educating, I mean, doctor Mike and I have a heart. Just educating, going above and beyond just to sit down with them and and just give them hope and clarity as to what the problems are and whether we can fix it here and or we need to refer them out. I mean, we’re trying to work with other practitioners to really, build a network of people that, take care of people.”

Angela Barrett – “So and the other thing, this is how it is explained to me many, many, many years ago because I’m much older than you guys. You know, when your spine is aligned and everything is working, everything flows like it should. And I’ll give you an example. Hormones, female hormones. You know, I have it for a fact. I had a friend who was told by a medical doctor, can’t get pregnant, can’t get pregnant, can’t get pregnant.”

Angela Barrett – “I said, go see a chiropractor in six months. Guess what? She was pregnant.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “I have so many stories. Yeah, just the beautiful thing I know.”

Angela Barrett – “So I mean, people, you know, for women who still have all that, again, pretty old, I mean, it is a very,”

Angela Barrett – “And noninvasive is what I’m trying to say. A noninvasive way to get everything working right down to female hormones, which are not talked about a lot because people are like, oh, let’s we’ll talk about that. But it needs to be brought up because this is a big part, because then, you know, as as you get older than you, you go through all this whole other thing and it just, you know, but all of it helps, what you guys do.”

Angela Barrett – “So speaking of that, we’ll talk about the three teas of chiropractic, care. Tell me about that.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “You got your go to,”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “Yeah. It’s, toxins, traumas and thoughts, or another is chemical, physical and emotional stress. And that is the big reason for educating patients. I was just talking with someone earlier today about, better understanding. How can we manage stress? And that’s why people say, oh, chiropractic, we have this broad stroke is because if we can better understand how to want to adapt to our stressors, then those three things chemical, physical and emotion, all stress.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “We all have those, right? It’s not going to go away. Right. How do we better manage that. So that’s why we have doctor Mike and I have a lot of things that we talk with, lifestyle, things that we do outside of the office to help them better manage their stress. So that’s a key component because a lot of people, as we mentioned before, a misconception is like, oh, I, I didn’t know that that my mental stress, you know, when people come in, you see them regularly, that you can tell them there’s a lot of mental stress, whether that’s difficult at work or a family death in a family like that is a”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “big emotional stress. And what that does, it puts a lot of stress to the nervous and does the joints. When the joints are moving well, your body can’t move. And I can talk forever about all those things.”

Angela Barrett – “But just like when people have tension in the neck, I mean, nine times out of ten, not always that stress, but what happens is because, like you’re saying, it’s just that gradual thing and, you know, the next thing you know, sitting with your shoulders up round your ears because you can’t lose, I know, I had several friends who have to go.”

Angela Barrett – “I mean, just because of their jobs or what they do daily just provides a lot of stress. And, they go for muscle management or chiropractic adjustments. However, I think at your office, I think you guys do both like some sort of I think I saw on the website, correct me if I’m wrong. A massage therapy there.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yeah. Have a massage therapist in-house who works with us. We do. I say we don’t do, we don’t do the spa treatment. We do corrective care utilizing her skills. So she works with us. In each case, basically, it’s it’s pretty awesome to have that. Yeah.”

Angela Barrett – “So, clear up an argument. Muscles from I’ve had before massage first and then adjustment or adjustment and then the size.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Most of the time for me, I adjust people first and then send them in for a massage.”

Angela Barrett – Yeah.

DR. Mike McIntyre – And everything. Yeah. And.

DR. Luke Sparaccio –

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yeah, I don’t like having massage first because that muscle feedback gives me a lot of information on where and when to adjust. Yeah. So I like to adjust first rather than like, you know, get rid of that feedback from the muscles and then adjusting.”

Angela Barrett – “Right. Yeah. Well and just from the massage standpoint it’s like it takes me a while to relax if I’ve already had that adjustment. Sort of I could relax when I get to the inside, the whole relaxing and enjoy all of it. You know, I’ve got, so let’s talk about the services you guys do provide there.”

Angela Barrett – At the office.

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yeah. So we do, we focus on the chiropractic care, right? We do garden center practice care, and then, have the massage therapist that works with us. My front office manager also does, she’s a yoga instructor. So we do yoga classes. She’ll, she’ll show people, like, some home care stuff, like stretching and things like that.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And then, we’re starting to delve into some functional medicine stuff with a new partner that we have. We haven’t really announced anything about that yet, but,”

Angela Barrett – You have no. Yeah.

DR. Mike McIntyre – There’s a teaser.

Angela Barrett – On that’s.

DR. Mike McIntyre – “The that’s the teaser. And then, but we have other, health care providers in the area that I work with, like some nurse practitioners, mental health counselor. That’s a, somebody we work with pretty regularly. And I’m really just having even, even medical doctors. I mean, I work with knowledgeable doctors and Ob-Gyn, OB GYNs, and, having that relationship is wonderful.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And I think a lot of chiropractors are afraid to have those relationships because they think that, you know, I mean, there’s there’s the conception, right? Where we’re different. We’re not accepted by the medical world, and.”

Angela Barrett – They’re not doctors in quotation.

DR. Mike McIntyre – “We’re fake doctors faked out. Right? We go through, we go through just as much schooling, and I really do it myself. On being like people I take care of. I view them as like primary care doctor. What? You know, I, I need to be referred somewhere or something else. Like I need to figure out where they need to go.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And I mean, we take X-rays on people. We have to do pathology read on those X-rays. And, I mean, I’ve seen I’ve found bone cancer and X-rays, and I need to be able to know where to send them and and identify that stuff. So we’re not just the, you know, snake oil rack and crack and papa bones.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “I word for holds, whole body health care provider is what we’re we’re looking to do here. So.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. So, let’s talk about, like, people with arthritis. Well, we’ll just pick that one. How can you help? Because that’s a that’s a common one. How do you help people with what are the different modalities? I guess that you can help people with other ideas with.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – Go for it.

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “But yeah. So that the term is, is is used a lot arthritis. It’s an inflammatory, it’s inflammatory. Right. And so when we look at the X-rays and that’s why the detail gone said is really based on, a foundational perspective. Right. So if there’s imbalance or structural misalignment, it can irritate put stress to the joints.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “So that joint has been, misaligned or not level as we would call it. Then over time, there’s going to be more wear and tear on that joint. And that’s when you’ll have more of that arthritic changes on the disc. And that’s the big thing to see is to know. To not to see is to guess. Someone has told me.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “And so why would we ever want to guess with your health? And I talked to patients, like, if you go to a dentist, before they drill your teeth, you don’t hesitate to take an X-rays. But a lot of the time, say, I don’t think it’s necessary, but in order to see those changes and arthritic changes, it’s important to, really figure out what’s the cost of the problem is, so arthritis is it’s case by case.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “And we again, You know, we can definitely help those, those things. So it’s hard to say what we do for arthritis as opposed to what’s causing the arthritis or arthritic changes. When we see any x rays. And sometimes it’s an inflammatory that’s causing, you know, digestive issues. So that can be potential. And that’s can typically be more of the the upper or mid-back area.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “So every joint your spine as a direct correlation with every organ tissue and gland. That’s why the details are so important. When someone comes I just have lower back pain. Doctor would would say, point to it, show me, show me and and trace where the pain is, because that’s going to give us an indication of potentially what segment or joint it is potentially causing distress.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. And you brought up something interesting. And I always seem to forget ugly honestly not in that field whatsoever, but have been, my whole life with, a chiropractor. But you forget that every joint or every,”

Angela Barrett – “Is related to an organ like sewer, like they do with the, What is it called when they. They do the feet, and it’s like, this is liver. This is heart. You know, I.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – Think like psychology.

Angela Barrett – “Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And people would.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – Tums in the body and. Yeah.

Angela Barrett – “Right. And so it really is the same. If you were to look at a similar chart, the same with the spine. Correct?”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yeah, absolutely. You’re I mean that’s what we the number one reason why we look at the spine is to make sure that it’s not affecting the nervous system because you’re spot, you know, your spine houses, your spinal cord, your nervous system, direct connection to the brain that controls everything. And so that’s I mean, it’s the only system in your body fully encased by bone or protection.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Right? Right. When the spine is out of alignment, it really affects that. I mean, one of the small things that it does is cause pain, right? Every single level in the spine. Yeah. The nerves. That’s the electrical function in the body. They the nerves come from somewhere to control stuff. And it starts at your spine.”

Angela Barrett – “Know, so there was a question I had, and I’m sorry, it just left me, I’ll move on and maybe it’ll come back to me. No, no. So tell me what you think makes you guys stand out. I’m just going to say more than other chiropractors, say South Carolina. We’ll go that far. What makes you stand out?”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “So the the system that we use, the constant system, it’s I mean, it’s it’s specific, it’s scientific. It eliminates all guesswork. You know, and I mean, you’d be surprised how many chiropractors don’t even take X-rays. Somebody can literally come crawling into an office, and they won’t take an X-ray before they they work on them. And so that’s just a small part of what we do.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “So we look at movement, motion in the joints x ray. Obviously like system analysis. What’s been going on. History all that. So putting so many pieces of the puzzle together before we ever even lay our hands on people. One of the things that people have told me a lot is when they come to see me, they don’t feel like they’re just going through an assembly line.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And that’s not to talk bad about other doctors. It’s just the, our, our systems different. You know, we don’t put people through the assembly line. I don’t, you know, I talk to people. I reexamine them every single time before I X-ray them. So I don’t just meet them in the room with their face down. Yeah. So it’s just specificity to each person’s unique issue.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And, unfortunately, I just don’t see that a lot.”

Angela Barrett – “But that’s what with the other doctors in other professions, I think would be different than some of the chiropractic care that you.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “See, I love, I say co-managing, right? I love co-managing care with other professionals. And, you know, I yeah, I’m not like hiding in the corner saying, oh, now just, you know, choose me. Take me. You know, I’m like, no, let’s. I’m like, give, give them my number. I’ll call them like, send me the labs, I go over, I go over blood reports with people all the time from blood tests and most of the time they’ll get an, an x ray, like a medical x ray, which is a little different than what we do or blood work or something.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And they’ll just say, oh, it’s normal, but they never have it reviewed. So even like normal doesn’t necessarily mean normal if you’re right on the cusp of being abnormal. But if you fall into that normal, it’s just kind of, you know, your normal checkbox and move on. And we don’t we don’t do that.”

Angela Barrett – “Right? Right. So, doctor Mike, I understand you have a farm.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – I do.

Angela Barrett – “Yeah, that’s tell me a little bit about that.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “So we can I mean, I kind of just joke that I live on a big petting zoo, so.”

Angela Barrett – But.

DR. Mike McIntyre – “So we have, we have a bunch of animals we’ve rescued. So I have, like, horses and donkeys that have been rescues, and I have ducks and chickens and pigs and goats and sheep and on and on. And it’s, it’s really just, it’s a simple living connection with the animals in the, the earth and raise my kids on it.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And I joke that I have, free range kids yet, so.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah, with five, Oh.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yeah. That’s like, it’s my little, you know. Yeah. My little.”

Angela Barrett – “What, do you work for a baseball team here. So I’m.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – Trying. That’s right. Yeah.

Angela Barrett – “Yeah. Well, that’s pretty cool. It is always amazing to me how our northerners who move south end up with, farms or, you know, lots of land.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “And then my, I have my uncle, who I was very close with was a farmer his whole life, and he was, like, the happiest person I ever met. Just simple guy, always happy, always had a smile on his face. And, I mean, he was on to something. So. Yeah, I’m. I’m trying to embrace that.”

Angela Barrett – “So, yeah, I call my therapy dirt therapy, like, you know, working in the and planning and digging, but but it really is. And my husband was like, do you want me to help you? I’m like, please don’t. Please just go.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “So, yeah, my donkeys are great listeners.”

Angela Barrett – “You know that look, right? Right. So, darling, when are you going to, do your farm?”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – Yeah. I mean.

Angela Barrett – “Coming from New York, when I.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “First when I first came and visited, and doctor Mike, he, I helped him set up, what was it? Sheep.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Shells. And we built this up of a reef, repurposed now sheep shelter.”

Angela Barrett – “It’s,”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “I do not know. I do love when I was in school, and I really enjoyed the the scenery. And I just love it. I do love it here. So good. It’s, slowly, showing me the ropes in regards to how to build and. And what do you say you start with chicken training? Yeah. Let’s take.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – The gate.

Angela Barrett – “You in the club? Yeah. That is the big thing. I, I, I do real estate in real life, and, I must get asked daily. Well, can we have chickens? But. Yeah, well, not in a subdivision.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yeah, but,”

Angela Barrett – “You’re going to have to go outside of that. That’s. Yeah. So tell everybody how they get in touch with you and what. Oh, you know what? Before we do that. So for people, because comfort and care sometimes a lot of towns is not covered or either fully covered with insurance. How do you guys help people with that side of things?”

Angela Barrett – Because it can get expensive if you don’t have insurance in it.

DR. Mike McIntyre – “That’s actually one of the reasons why I when I opened my office, I chose not to participate with insurance companies because they literally make it so that I have to charge more. Yeah, right. As they don’t reimburse. I mean, you know, I that’s a whole nother we could do an hour that so I just like I set my prices to be affordable.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “I offer, you know, I offer discounts when I can. I offer monthly payment stuff. I mean, I try to make that as easy as possible, and we do cash pay. We literally just like, eliminate the middleman of the insurance company trying to tell you what you need and what you don’t need, because in my humble opinion, that’s them practicing chiropractic without a license.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Again, that’s a whole nother conversation for a different Eddie. But.”

Angela Barrett – Right. Yeah.

DR. Mike McIntyre – “We really I try to make the financial side of stuff like the easiest, least thing to worry about because and, like, we just focus on getting people. Well. So.”

Angela Barrett – “Yeah, I, cash pay, if people should really, we’re again, we’ll talk about that at another time, but people should really start asking about that. Here are their tell everybody how they get in touch with you. We’re all, I know you’re on Facebook and I know you have a website. But tell everybody how they get in touch with you.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yeah, that’s the easiest way. Websites got all our information on there. We can, like, if somebody is interested in even just sitting down with us, I always do free consultations with people. If they just want to sit and see if chiropractic is something that might help. So I always offer that, and then. Yeah, I mean, if you have like the website to McIntyre chiro Qcom, follow us on there.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “My social media stuff’s on there, my our telephone number, online info booking, all that stuff.”

Angela Barrett – And do you guys sometimes do speaking engagements at places? I thought I saw that maybe I was wrong.

DR. Mike McIntyre – “No, we do. Yeah. We offer, we offer classes in in the office.”

Angela Barrett – “Oh, okay.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “We will travel to do some. We like, like to do, like lunch and learns and stuff things like that are great because you can just go some meet people where they’re at and and talk about things. I’m, I love teaching seminars. I like to do, like, like business seminars or chiropractic. So that’s a little side thing that I do to help young docs, you know, not fail in business because unfortunately, you know, being in business for yourself is hard.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – “Yes. So yeah. And and you have a hard to help people, but you also get to keep the lights on in your office to do that. Right.”

Angela Barrett – “That’s right. Well thank you guys so much for, being with me today and, giving us a little bit of insight about how you guys, help people in the Somerville area and surrounding. But thanks so much.”

DR. Luke Sparaccio – “Oh, want to thank you.”

DR. Mike McIntyre – Want to thank you for that.

Episode transcript:

Angela Barrett “Hey guys, today I have with me Elizabeth Anderson. She is with Platform in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, right outside of Charleston. And for us, that big bridge that everybody likes to run across. So thanks, Elizabeth, for joining me today.”

Elizabeth Anderson Thank you so much for having me. I’m really happy to be here.

Angela Barrett “Yeah. So let’s talk about what first platform is, you explain there.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Sir. So the full name of the platform is platform a consciousness studio. Then opened for just about a year and its mission is, to bring people to the practice of meditation. I do one form, but they offer many other ways to go about it. They have, I do a tiger meditation, which is a yogic sleep, which, yes, it’s not a physical movement practice very literally in one position the whole time.”

Elizabeth Anderson “But they have, Hiroko all have, some mindful movement meditations by, tab. Basically you can come in and schedule or drop in and do some prerecorded, meditations where you find your space and this beautiful, quiet, serene area that the owner has set up. And then they both also have it. Yeah. Evening classes. They’re going to start doing some day classes where somebody is there to help you with the meditation or having someone with you.”

Elizabeth Anderson “They’re going to start doing some book clubs, The Artist’s Way, before agreeing, I’m gonna give some classes with some restorative yoga classes on journaling because the core, intent of platform is to have a lot of different avenues to get you to be in your presence, space to let go, tractions in operations in your life and just come to your breath and come to the present moment.”

Elizabeth Anderson “As you practice meditation, you can take it out into the fray of your daily life and come back to that present awesome factor of your breath, help you through all that moments that.”

Angela Barrett “Yeah. Right in, in in this stage of and where we are today in the world, we can all use a little of that, although it’s a lot harder than it sounds. Now, let me ask you a few questions. You guys do yoga as well as meditation or this is really a meditate place.”

Elizabeth Anderson “It really is a place for meditation. So even though, what I the file that I do at platform is a, mega style, it’s called yoga, but really it is a meditation if you’re in one position the whole time and it’s guided, they there’s, so we’re gonna start doing the, restorative yoga that really that is to get you into a meditative funk.”

Elizabeth Anderson “I would say there’s no asana. So classes that you’re really building through and making it a physical practice, most of everything that you will see there in there still. Yeah. Called movements, if there’s any of that at all, there might be just some, some mostly guided meditations there. The reason why but, we’re introducing some of the restorative, which you would really be, maybe six position for a few minutes.”

Elizabeth Anderson “So it’s very gentle and so very still before you go into a meditation at the end is to get people comfortable with the idea of meditation. I think people in general, I know I did in the beginning, that I can’t meditate, I can’t do that. I can’t yet in the same. Right. And yet, breathing cannot.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Then, I think people find it to be a little intimidating and and it’s not. And that’s why we’re trying to educate so accessible to everyone. And so to enter David, many avenues as possible to get people comfortable with the meditation practice so they can integrate it into their lives and have more peace and calm as they go throughout their day.”

Angela Barrett “Right, right, right. The, and we’re going to get into more of what your, your platform is, which is the Nadra. But yeah, but let’s talk about I saw on there where, the sound baths. Tell us more a little bit about that.”

Elizabeth Anderson “One the big but sound baths girl. Yeah, yeah. So that’s a wonderful experience. So they have, where you can go and there’s four styles of meditations in there that are prerecorded headsets. One of those voices, are sound B&B. There’s four sound baths. Currently they’re going to start introducing new ones. So there’s no voice and a sound bar.”

Elizabeth Anderson “You’re listening to pretzel bowls, rain sticks, some gentle music waves. It’s all integrated together to get you into a calm fight. So all of the headset meditations are half an hour, and then there is also, a lady named Arlen, and her business is awake and Fonda, and he does sound baths there, and they’re really incredible.”

Elizabeth Anderson So she comes in and gets them right in that space.

Angela Barrett “Oh that’s nice. Now, what about the, circle?”

Elizabeth Anderson “Okay, so they an old, lady named Arman. Not that those. And he’s amazing. That’s how I actually came. The platform. I was actually a couple doors down getting, some items for a, Harvest New Deal. The practice that I was going to do in my neighborhood. And I was like, what? The place? I just thought that more of a consciousness studio.”

Elizabeth Anderson “And they had a sandwich board outside thing. They did, they’re open, but sounded interesting to me. So I just happened to go in there. I talked to the lady, that was up front, and she said that, that Yanni could come in and just sign up and do it. And so I had, Carmen. And basically what happened in that scenario is, he does kind of a meditation in the beginning, and then you’re basically mapping, for several rounds, and you’re doing it collectively with everybody in the circle, and it creates this incredible, peaceful, energetic way.”

Elizabeth Anderson And you feel very cleansed in rejuvenated. And at the end.

Angela Barrett “Nice, nice.”

Elizabeth Anderson Yeah.

Angela Barrett “So let’s talk about, Nadra and really the point of nidra and sort of what its, purpose is because each one has a different purpose. So let’s talk about your your baby.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Not sure. Yeah. I’d love to. So, I got into it when I was getting my t 100 hour certification. The Niagara with a small piece of it that one of the instructors introduced and actually went through with us on a meditation, like me, experience. And I thought, well, I, you know, I didn’t know that would even be a piece of what I would be learning.”

Elizabeth Anderson “And I really enjoyed it. Once I got my 200 hour sort of haven, you could, get some other certification as well. So I went, I had and that by my best certification. So it just specifically focused on that type of meditation or yoga. What’s so amazing about it is it does several things. And if you go to, a negative meditation, it kind of has a specific formula because it’s walking you through all the layers.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Your body’s like, we have so much more than a physical body, and that’s part of it. But you go through a physical journey, an energetic breath journey, a mental journey, a wisdom journey with journey. And, it’s really the practice of bringing body and mind into the same faith. It’s working with your breath and dropping into the present moment and helping you rework, belief patterns that are limiting, each time you go through, mantra meditation, you’ll be asked to focus on an intention, something that will come naturally back.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Whatever you’re feeling about how, you know, just a thought about you might want to. You’re like, I’m be confident or whatever, whatever you are trying to, bring to the surface because. So then, you know, you just have to bring forth into your present faith. So it helps you. It helps you to do all of those things.”

Elizabeth Anderson “And the more that you practice it, the more you can bring up life. And that’s the other thing that it does, is, you know, we all have attraction and aversion. So aversions might be like if you have a fear of a certain animal or whatever it is, that if you happen to be walking across the street in one of those animals, is there, that could disturb you, disturb your flow.”

Elizabeth Anderson “So if you could work on and not be elevated by that. And then there’s also attraction. I, I personally love my coffee.”

Angela Barrett In the.

Elizabeth Anderson “Morning. Right. So if I were to then to go to the doctor next week and he said, hey, all of that caffeine really isn’t working for you. No more coffee. That’s an attraction for me. I have to be okay with that. I have to say, okay, I can put that down. It’s about neutralizing everything. So that you can just be, this present flow state.”

Elizabeth Anderson No one is going to do that all the time. But I need to get better with the process of flowing through what is happening and what’s coming your way.

Angela Barrett “Now, correct me if I’m wrong about this, but in my reading, in prepping for our, talk today, what I read about the Nitro was it really dealt with going into the the Delta brainwaves? No, no no no. And, in response for, for healing, which is responsible, the delta waves are responsible for your healing and restoration. Now, that is a lot of scientific stuff, but explore more into that.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Sure, sure. So, traditional meditation kind of keeps you in the waking state, those, beta and alpha waves. So the reason, one of the reasons why the night is called the, the yoga sleep is because it does get you into the Delta as well, and it gets you into that kind of. I don’t know if you’ve ever been, waking up in the morning or you wake up, you’re not quite ready to get up, and you’re kind of in that in down, and you’re kind of asleep.”

Elizabeth Anderson “You’re kind of awake, very dreamy. It’s very peaceful, you know, and you don’t really feel like you’re you’re fully in your physical body. You’re kind of like floating in and out of that state. So that is where, the nitro meditation takes you into that delta wave state. So where you are, relax, but you’re still aware, and that is where you get into that state and dropping in to calm and relaxed and getting out of what?”

Elizabeth Anderson “Flight or fright mode. Where you’re just, like, freaked out about everything?”

Angela Barrett “Yeah, I got to get up and do this.”

Elizabeth Anderson Yeah. Yeah.

Angela Barrett “Yeah. And so again, in my, in my reading research, It talks about it can be good for certain things. Again, one of them I thought was kind of odd and you can maybe help me with this is type two diabetes.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Yeah. You know what? I honestly, not familiar with that being helpful in that regard.”

Angela Barrett “Yeah, well, it was just one of the things that it listed that it was helpful with. So I thought, well, I that’s,”

Elizabeth Anderson So I’ll read through that too.

Angela Barrett “Yeah. Well, I didn’t I didn’t take it any further than that. But so let’s back up just a second and talk about the importance of meditation for everyday people. Well, so tell me about that.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Yeah, yeah. I mean, I, we kind of touched on it a little bit before, you know, life is so hyper connected now. We know everything all the time. There’s so much information coming at us. And even if you’re a person that maybe doesn’t use social media, or watching that TV a lot, you know, it’s still coming out even as you try to, like, mitigate it.”

Elizabeth Anderson “It’s constantly pouring at you. And, you know, our brains really, really aren’t made to take in all this information so quickly. So it the we are in a constant state of overstimulation. So meditation I think now in in credible you need that time. And I think people have a hard time carving out time for themselves in general.”

Elizabeth Anderson “And it doesn’t have to be, ideal hour and a half an hour meditation, guided, headphone ones and the sound bars or 30 minutes. And you don’t have to start at that point or ever get to where you. I think if you feel it more, you’ll want to do it longer. But you can sit down and do it for five minutes.”

Elizabeth Anderson “It does not have to be, oh, a long commitment during the day. If you feel like you don’t have that time, you could start at five minutes. You start with, whatever is going to do work for you to start to get on that road because it will be the quiet we need plan. Oh, the meditation is a way to get there.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Become there. Yeah. No love out there. It’s just like a firehose coming at you all the time. And so you need to get your mind and body attached to the fact, right? That’s right.”

Angela Barrett “And so let’s talk about for somebody who’s never done meditation and quite frankly probably has and you’ve met them some hesitation about well, you know, that’s not for me or. Oh I don’t know if I want to be a part of that group of people, however they might think of it. How do you get started?”

Angela Barrett “I mean, other than walking into a classroom, I get it right. Put in a headset. But, I mean, physically, we lay down. Let’s go from there. I mean, how do we separate what my grocery list needs to me? Because I’m terrible about that. In yoga, my Yogi friend’s an angel. That is not the purpose of my walk, I know, but,”

Angela Barrett “How how do you get to that point? I mean, how do you get to what you’re saying? Separation.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Sure, sure. I think, yeah. To your point, I think that it can be, daunting, like, wow, how can I do that? How can I how can I carve out that space? I think, physically, first of all, finding that faith is good. If you could, if you are the first person to get up in the morning.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Again, it does not have to be a long period of time. You could do it, for three minutes, 3 to 5 minutes after you get up. And I think it’s finding that it’s about faith, you know? So if you are that first one up, if you’ve got a face on a porch or, an office, like, carving out a little bit of life, that this is your place where you want and can be, not distracted for a few moments.”

Elizabeth Anderson “You know, and again, start at that 3 to 5 minutes and then, yeah. And again, also when you sit down and do it for the first time that you could find, there’s so many great, yoga music channels, like to look for instrumental, quiet, calming meditation music. Put that on. You can light a candle and just gaze into that candle and find an intention for yourself.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Or it could even be, you know, like, things that you feel grateful for or whatever speaks to you or something kind that you want to say to yourself that you love yourself something too. That doesn’t have to be thinking about nothing. It can be an intention you want to give yourself, three things of gratitude.”

Elizabeth Anderson “You might want to try taking a journal. And before you meditate, just write three things that you’re grateful for for that morning or for that evening. Light the candle and focus on those three things. Focus in on your breath. Listen to the sound of your breath. It can be, sitting in that space and coming into the present.”

Elizabeth Anderson “And what are five things I see here? What are five things that I hear and hear you get back here? Breath. Set a timer for yourself, and I can guarantee if you try one or a combination of those methods, that five minutes is going to go by so quickly. You can just keep going back to those practices.”

Elizabeth Anderson “And, you know, if that’s the gratitude journaling, I think that’s the lighting the candle and then focusing in on your five senses and what you feel in that space, whatever speaking to you and it could be different things on different days or maybe one thing, but just stay in those lanes and then every few days maybe set your timer for a few more minutes.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Start to see how that helps you. You get you into the space for you to be, see how that affects how you go about your day and how you were to respond when you’re, as we all get into in cars and say, like traffic or.”

Angela Barrett “Conflict time, right?”

Elizabeth Anderson “You know, how you can just bring it back to that present faith and not let one get under your skin.”

Angela Barrett “Right, right, right. And let’s talk about intentions for those who don’t know anything about, meditating. So explain again. But an intention is.”

Elizabeth Anderson “Yeah, so an intention and, you know, I mean, I don’t want to necessarily say something you want to work on. I don’t want it to be a pressure or another goal or that, you know, somebody began putting on their, their endless to do list and that would be productive life that they have that an intention can go back in, you know, self-love letting go of be here, wanting to have more clarity.”

Elizabeth Anderson “And, you know, it’s just an intention can be an endless thing for that individual is going to decide what their intention is. So not.”

Angela Barrett Another word could be a goal.

Elizabeth Anderson “It could be a goal. And I need a lot of things in it. And when I say it, when we talk about goal again, it’s not like, yeah, 10 pounds and a half marathon or whatever you want to do. It’s really more about taking it into the eternal, like maybe and percolating up one and then a half marathon, but I’m not me as an example.”

Elizabeth Anderson “So I think that I know people have done it and I’m very I have a lot of admiration for them. But, yeah, that would be something that I wanted to do, just hypothetically, but I can’t I can’t make myself get on the road to that journey. It’s really taking that internally. It’s like, well, what am I? Am I afraid I won’t be able to actually achieve that goal?”

Elizabeth Anderson “Or do I feel like I’m not strong enough? And then it’s it’s really looking at it’s like and that will maybe I don’t feel like I’m here, for example. Then I make my intention that I am strong. Oh, I’m capable, I am strong, I am worthy. You’re going you’re you’re putting it internal to yourself and filling your cup with what you think you’re lacking.”

Elizabeth Anderson The not lacking. You just happy. Get it to the person yourself.

Angela Barrett “Right. And again, that goes back to what the the knowledge is about. You’re not completely in your subconscious, but kind of mean you’re kind of halfway there and kind of halfway in the car to some. You never asleep? Not really.”

Elizabeth Anderson “But yeah. Good. Your subconscious is always working, right. We wake, it’s always going. And so when you’re getting enthused by drifts, you’re kind of slowly together with it, with your conscious and subconscious together. You can, you can clear out some stuff that’s happening in there. You can come to some revelation you formed, really make it, so one of the many, tools and practices to have for yourself, you come in for your light and your best self and really recognize it.”

Elizabeth Anderson “You know you are enough. You are worthy. You are capable of doing the things that you want to do, and you can put aside your fear. Then you can step forward in the process. You can let, things go because, I mean, we all hold. We hold everything, you know, we hold everything within ourselves. You know, that’s why you well, you know, you might go I mean, I do, I mean, I have dreams about myself still being in school and I can’t find my class or whatever it is, like all that stuff, you know, it’s still in you somewhere.”

Elizabeth Anderson “And so part of it, another example I like to do with it is, you know, stay lifted. Have me in second grade. I tripped over a curb, and I fell, and I, busted my eyebrow a little bit. So for me, maybe, like, still. So that still held an E somewhere. So if I’m walking really fast and I go to, like, trip on the sidewalk, my brain’s got the trigger.”

Elizabeth Anderson “I say, oh, no, you’re going to really hurt yourself. Now that’s something that happening in the path. I’m just going to catch myself. That’s true. And so the Niagara meditation helps me to not go back in time to that, that thing that happened to me. It’s going to help me just carry forward and just keep on walking.”

Angela Barrett “And it really is sort of something you have to practice that. I mean, you’re not going to do it the first few times and you’re just not, you know, at least I know I wouldn’t. I’m still making a grocery back.”

Elizabeth Anderson “My right. Yeah. And like anything else. Right. You’re not going to go to like a Pilates class and be one time and be awesome at lot right down. And so like anything else, it’s, it’s the practice for your, for your, for all of your bodies really. But yes, it’s definitely helpful for that mental and, you know, I feel that way about really, any, any sort of exercise.”

Elizabeth Anderson “You’re going to do that up on mental spiritual. It’s it’s all a practice. The more you do it, the more you’re gonna, you’re going to hone and define and get there where you want to be.”

Angela Barrett “Sure, sure. So, I know we’ve got to go. We both have busy days, but, Platform. How long have they been? Opened?”

Elizabeth Anderson “They up really close to a year. They’re just getting to their one year anniversary, and I think they’re planning, celebration tickets might be the 12th or September. Okay. But anyway, they’re just gonna kind of, you know, do you like a celebrate for being open a year? Talk about how they’re expanding and the other opportunities that they have, for people to find their lane of what’s gonna work for them.”

Elizabeth Anderson “To get into their present state with meditation, breathwork, you know, taking it beyond when you, when you leave your meditation space. And then again, I, I know I keep saying that, but if you go out into the world, you can, carry that peace and present with you.”

Angela Barrett “Yeah. Neat, neat. Well, I’m going to have to give it a try. I’ll, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll top with you on the side and find out where I need starts. It’s I’m not there with you and, Mount Pleasant, but, that’s it sounds like it. It sounds like we all care. Needs a little bit of that.”

Angela Barrett But thank you so much for being here.

Elizabeth Anderson “Yeah, absolutely. Thank you.”

Angela Barrett “Thank you for being here. And, I look forward to that down there. I will certainly come back now.”

Elizabeth Anderson “That’d be wonderful. Yeah, yeah.”

Angela Barrett Thank you so much.

Elizabeth Anderson Thank you.